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DIY Editing: A comma conundrum

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Behold the comma: it’s the most dreaded of punctuation marks, and one of the most misused and abused.

And for good reason. In the English language, most punctuation marks have no more than two or three uses. A period will always either end a sentence or abbreviate a word. An exclamation point indicates excitement.

Commas, on the other hand, are the Hufflepuff of grammar. They do some of everything.

They divide points in a list, they separate phrases in a sentence, they offset names and dates and states, they act as periods within interrupted dialogue.

In fact, it seems the one thing they don’t do is create an arbitrary pause. For example:

“My name, is Doctor Incredible!” just looks tacky. If you’re trying to pause for dramatic effect, you’re looking for an ellipse. It should really look like this: “My name… is Doctor Incredible!”

I started this post intending to write out all of the rules for properly placing a comma, but 1) I’d be here all day, and 2) the people below have said the same far more eloquently than I.

Purdue University’s Writing Lab site lists fifteen distinct rules for working with this slippery punctuation. Wikipedia has thirteen subsections on correct usage. Grammarbook.com has twenty-one. And even then, there’s more ways to make mistakes: The Opinion Page of the New York Times has a nice discussion of some common comma mistakes, as well as a Fanfare for the Comma Man— which discusses my next point:

The rules can change depending on who you ask. People will argue over these forever, so rather than giving you the rules, here’s some  spots where you can throw them out and go with your gut.

  • The infamous Oxford comma (the comma that precedes ‘and’ in a list), as in “bacon, milk, and cheese”)
  • Modifying phrases at the beginning of a sentence, such as “Last night Boxy and I saw a movie”

If the use/omission of the comma doesn’t change the meaning of the sentence, then it can go either way. However, in some cases the comma can lead to confusion. Remember: clarity trumps all else.

10 responses to “DIY Editing: A comma conundrum”

  1. michelle4laughs Avatar

    Commas. Bluck! I try to be consistent with my usage, but I’m never 100 percent sure when to use or not.

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    1. jwtroemner Avatar

      I hope some of these guides are helpful in clearing that up. There’s a lot of rules to remember. Curse those pesky commas and their versatility…

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  5. muggleinconverse Avatar

    I enthusiastically believe in the oxford comma and commas for modifying phrases. It has gotten me into a lot of trouble with editors, which has led to me questioning pretty much every comma I use.

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    1. jwtroemner Avatar

      Oh, the darling Oxford Comma… I wouldn’t be surprised if that grammatical tidbit has caused violent conflicts.

      My most basic rule of thumb: does the comma change the meaning of the sentence? Is the sentence smoother and easier to understand because of the comma, or is the opposite true?

      Regardless of preference or anything else, clarity and ease of understanding are paramount. Everything else is essentially window dressing.

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      1. muggleinconverse Avatar

        Good rule. 🙂

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  6. Zachary Avatar

    Thanks for the insight Jennifer. I have always struggled with my commas. When using commas in my writing, the way I am here, I am never sure whether I am using them correctly. With so many rules for commas, have you ever wondered where the rules came from?

    Overwhelmed for trying to use commas in my writing, I usually try to avoid using commas as much as possible. I have already spent twenty minutes trying to make sentences that use commas, and I’m not even sure if I’m using them properly.

    You say that the rules for commas are different depending on whom you ask, so whom do you ask? Who is right and who is wrong? And how does one go with his/her gut. Every time I go with my gut, it’s wrong.

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